I probably did not make this clear, my fault, but I did not mean that colloquial language should not be used, and obviously, also dialects. The only problem is that in the UK dialects can mean that it is difficult to understand - for example, I find the Scottish dialect very hard (sometimes) to understand, even though I did once live there for nearly three years. Dialogue should not in any case sound like perfect English, but as normal people sound.lymiewithpurpose wrote: ↑May 31st, 2019, 1:48 pmInteresting that you discuss plot structure. I am going to take the opposing side and say that I much prefer the plots of modern day novels. They may not have all the components or in perfect order, but they keep me engaged. 99% of older books bore me to death, so I choose what I read carefully. I know when I am assigned a book in school I look at the publication date, if I see it's decently old I automatically have a prejudice against it. And oftentimes I feel like poor English is intentional. The vast majority of people in the real world do not speak in formal and proper language all the time, and this accurately represents our current setting. Again, this is a youngster's opinion though.lurcherlover wrote: ↑May 31st, 2019, 1:37 pmAs far as scripts go for films and particularly TV, I've found that in the last ten or twenty years that the standards are appallingly low. Writers who have no idea about plot structure, how to characterise, or how to just write in good English. (Foreign languages I can't comment on, but I bet that French and Italian scripts just to name two, are a lot better). I often wonder what planet some of these English scriptwriters come from!
The book I'm recording at the moment has lots of colloquial language, broken English, as well as Russian words, and also Dukes and Duchesses speaking perfect English (even though they are Russian aristocracy) as well as peasants using peasant phrases. This is an example of a book written in about 1921 and probably for you qualifies as boring, but the plot structure is pretty good and it's anything but boring - at least in my opinion. It has awful people, revolutionary's, murderers, class warfare, and the old Russian Revolution, as well as a romantic hero and heroin.
But yes, just like today's writers, the writers of the past are a mixture of good and bad, boring and incompetent, as well as brilliant.