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Post by Kazbek » January 5th, 2021, 3:14 pm

audwon wrote:
January 5th, 2021, 9:05 am
Uploaded Chapter 28. Duration 6:50.

https://librivox.org/uploads/availle/storyjapan_28_vanbergen_128kb.mp3
audwon wrote:
January 5th, 2021, 11:46 am
Uploaded chapter 29. Duration 12:12. Please PL.

https://librivox.org/uploads/availle/storyjapan_29_vanbergen_128kb.mp3
Thanks for the quick turnaround! PL coming soon.

Michael

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Post by Kazbek » January 5th, 2021, 3:17 pm

WanderingWalker wrote:
January 5th, 2021, 10:28 am
https://librivox.org/uploads/availle/storyjapan_27_vanbergen_128kb.mp3
15.56
I did make a couple mistakes but is there a way I can edit these
Wandering Walker
WanderingWalker wrote:
January 5th, 2021, 10:46 am
https://librivox.org/uploads/availle/storyjapan_25_vanbergen_128kb._.mp3
section 25
09.35
wanderingwalker
Thank you! Will try to PL at least the first one tonight.

Michael

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Post by Kazbek » January 5th, 2021, 3:18 pm

Steve wrote:
January 5th, 2021, 12:26 pm
Section 36 Uploaded:

https://librivox.org/uploads/availle/storyjapan_36_vanbergen_128kb.mp3

12:11
Thank you, Steve!

Michael

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Post by audwon » January 5th, 2021, 7:17 pm


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Post by Kazbek » January 5th, 2021, 7:55 pm

audwon wrote:
January 5th, 2021, 9:05 am
Uploaded Chapter 28. Duration 6:50.

https://librivox.org/uploads/availle/storyjapan_28_vanbergen_128kb.mp3
This is a nice reading, but unfortunately there's a technical problem that requires further attention. It sounds like your breath is periodically hitting the mic, producing bursts of noise. It starts happening occasionally around (1:30) and then from the paragraph that starts "The commodore arrived" (2:38) is begins to occur every few words and it becomes too distracting. This is a standard issue which we aim to catch and help new contributors resolve when they do their 1-minute test, and it's unfortunate that you've spent time recording a longer section (and more than one) before it came to light. Professionals avoid this by using a pop filter, but most of us here use the low-tech approach of shifting the mic a bit to the side. For example, mine is placed at the level of my left ear. I'm afraid I have to ask you to experiment until you find a mic position where this does not happen and then re-record the portions of your sections where this occurs, let's say, more than once per sentence. I've spot checked section 29, and the same issue is happening there. If you want to me check shorter portions of your recordings before investing the time again to record a full section, I'd be happy to do that.

On the other hand, I just spot checked section 30, and didn't hear this issue, so I'll PL it tomorrow, keeping my fingers crossed.

A couple of other minor issues: "section X" shouldn't be repeated again after the disclaimer, and the silence at the end should be ~5 seconds.

Thanks,
Michael

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Post by Kazbek » January 5th, 2021, 9:17 pm

WanderingWalker wrote:
January 5th, 2021, 10:28 am
https://librivox.org/uploads/availle/storyjapan_27_vanbergen_128kb.mp3
15.56
I did make a couple mistakes but is there a way I can edit these
Wandering Walker
Yes, there are just a few hesitations and stumbles left, and these can be corrected by editing in two ways:

1) try to magnify the soundwave and see if you can cut out a portion of it producing a smooth sentence (e.g., if you said "two and two makes five er four", you could fix this by cutting out "five er")
2) If you can't clean up some of these through editing alone, just record a new version of the sentence or part of it in a new window, select the new sound wave fragment, copy it, select the old sound wave fragment to be replaced, delete it, and paste the new one in its place.

I've annotated about a half of the recording for you:

(3:50) The [stumble] agent told him
(4:06) through [hesit] which the frigate [hesit] must proceed
(5:00) according [stumble] to our ideas
(5:21) please check the pronounciation of "severer"; we leave pronunciation up to the reader, but I suspect you may have mistook this word for another (it sounds like it means "one who severs" rather than "more severe")
(5:25) the [stumble] officers
(6:03) had [stumble] been appointed
(6:16) changes that [stumble] had occurred
(7:20) American vessel [hesit] engaged by the Dutch
(7:30) editing cue left in

Please edit the recording to fix these (but please don't re-record the whole thing again), and also any similar issues that occur in the second half.

The average volume dropped to 80 dB again. Please amplify by ~9 dB, following my instructions on p. 4.

Also, your reading has a wide dynamic range, leading to some volume jumps like at (1:53). We want to avoid a scenario where the listener turns up the volume to hear a murmur and then a shout hurts their ears. I don't think what I've heard here reaches that point, but please watch out for this in general. If you naturally read with a wide dynamic range, you may consider applying compression to your recording:

https://wiki.librivox.org/index.php/Dynamic_Range_Compression

Thanks,
Michael

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Post by audwon » January 6th, 2021, 6:38 am

Michael:

Thanks SO MUCH for your comments. I also noticed the breath after the recording but not sure what caused it. I didn't notice it in my other recording of other book (still waiting to be PLed). The difference between the recording were that the microphone was plugged on the left-side USB but later I used the right-side USB on my PC. I will keep trying placing the microphone further away from my mouth.

After the recording of Chapter 30 I used 'Noise Reduction' so that make the breath weaker?

I deleted the 'Section 28' at from the recording of chapter 28, and also applied Noise Reduction to it. Also shortened the silence at the end to be 5s. Can you please PL it again?

Thanks.


https://librivox.org/uploads/availle/storyjapan_28_vanbergen_128kb.mp3

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Post by Kazbek » January 6th, 2021, 6:41 am

CaptainKetchup wrote:
January 4th, 2021, 7:18 pm
Section 22 - 8:55
Section 23 - 6:23
Both are PL OK!

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Post by Kazbek » January 6th, 2021, 6:48 am

audwon wrote:
January 6th, 2021, 6:38 am


I deleted the 'Section 28' at from the recording of chapter 28, and also applied Noise Reduction to it. Also shortened the silence at the end to be 5s. Can you please PL it again?
Sorry, I'm afraid the breath-against-the-mic noise is still there. You can hear it starting at 2:46-2:53 with several bursts in succession. Noise reduction isn't clever enough to remove it. I'm not actually sure the noise isn't there in section 30. I just meant that it wasn't there in the spots I checked, so I wanted to take time to listen to more of the recording before asking you to revise it. I'll do that later today.

Thanks,
Michael

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Post by audwon » January 6th, 2021, 11:49 am

Michael:

I found one problem: Audacity was getting input from the built-in microphone on my PC rather than my headset microphone.

I uploaded a test recording. Can you help check the quality? Thanks.


https://librivox.org/uploads/tests/storyjapan_28_test.mp3


This one was after applying 'Noise Reduction'. Does this sound any better?
https://librivox.org/uploads/tests/storyjapan_28_test_noise_reduction.mp3
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Post by WanderingWalker » January 6th, 2021, 12:03 pm

Hi Michael

I am attempting to edit section 27
The instructions links contain instructions for Windows 7/XP or Vista only.
I have Windows 10 and the instructions do not correspond.

Why would you zoom sound?

Is a highlighted section the bit to be deleted when editing? If so, how do you put in a new bit of recording? The instructions for this are not clear.

Is there a volume monitor anywhere in the program? If not, how do you keep a constant level of sound?

Does compression affect the whole recording or are you supposed to select sections for this?

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Post by Kazbek » January 6th, 2021, 4:36 pm

Steve wrote:
January 5th, 2021, 12:26 pm
Section 36 Uploaded:

https://librivox.org/uploads/availle/storyjapan_36_vanbergen_128kb.mp3

12:11
PL OK!

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Post by Kazbek » January 6th, 2021, 4:41 pm

audwon wrote:
January 6th, 2021, 11:49 am
Michael:

I found one problem: Audacity was getting input from the built-in microphone on my PC rather than my headset microphone.

I uploaded a test recording. Can you help check the quality? Thanks.

https://librivox.org/uploads/tests/storyjapan_28_test.mp3

This one was after applying 'Noise Reduction'. Does this sound any better?
https://librivox.org/uploads/tests/storyjapan_28_test_noise_reduction.mp3
This test doesn't have the breath-pop problem. Also, section 30 doesn't have it and is PL OK. :thumbs: I doubt noise reduction had much to do with it. It sounds like you found a good mic position for these recordings. If you're not yet sure which position is good or not, you could just check your readings as you record them to be sure that the problem doesn't reoccur. I look forward to hearing revised versions of you other sections.

Thanks,
Michael

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Post by Kazbek » January 6th, 2021, 4:53 pm

WanderingWalker wrote:
January 6th, 2021, 12:03 pm
Hi Michael

I am attempting to edit section 27
The instructions links contain instructions for Windows 7/XP or Vista only.
I have Windows 10 and the instructions do not correspond.

Why would you zoom sound?

Is a highlighted section the bit to be deleted when editing? If so, how do you put in a new bit of recording? The instructions for this are not clear.

Is there a volume monitor anywhere in the program? If not, how do you keep a constant level of sound?

Does compression affect the whole recording or are you supposed to select sections for this?
First, regarding compression: it applies to a selection, so if you want to compress the entire track, you want to select the entire track first (e.g., by clicking somewhere on the little pane at the left).

For the rest, I'm glad you're asking these questions. Basic editing is an essential skill for all of us. It takes some effort to pick up, but it soon becomes easy (if a bit time-consuming). I'm going to ask to you post these questions in the forum Need Help? Got Advice?, so that they're visible to community members who specialize in technical coaching for new readers. I'll keep an eye on that forum, and I'm happy to jump in and help if needed, but if someone has already made an instructional video to address your specific questions, that would be more efficient than trying to communicate about them in writing.

To do that, please:

1) go to this forum: viewforum.php?f=23
2) click on "New Topic" and use something like "Questions about basic editing" as the subject
3) Describe your software setup, the tasks you're trying to accomplish, the instructional materials you're consulting, and the difficulties you're having.

Thanks,
Michael

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