FULL[PLAY]The Weaker Sex by Pinero - thw

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Post by Kitty » August 11th, 2020, 6:58 am

Todd, here's the first act for my lady Vivash, oh I loved the drama and tragedy in this woman's life. :9:

https://librivox.org/uploads/toddhw/weakersex_lady_vivash_1_128kb.mp3
Recording time: 12:24 min.

I hope you like my interpretation of her.

Now reading the whole play, I notice that Pinero is plagiarising and recycling his own ideas :lol: The topic of the lover from the past come back to fall in love with the daughter of his previous love has been used in the Second Mrs Tanqueray as well (only it was the stepdaughter, and Mrs T. reacted very differently to Lady V. in the end), and also in a way in The Big Drum (only there was no daughter to make it even more complicated). Interestingly, Pinero opted for a "non-happy-ending" in the three plays. Maybe the audience back then wasn't ready for the daughter to find her love. I think in modern movies it would have ended differently.

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Post by adrianstephens » August 11th, 2020, 7:00 am

Kitty wrote:
August 11th, 2020, 6:44 am

BTW in case you haven't recorded yet: I am going to pronounce the 'y' in Philipp Lyster like "list, gist, missed", not "lice, mice, rice". In case you want to say it the same way in our dialogues. Is that ok for you ?

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Yes, that's fine. I'm probably going to record Act 1 tonight. 'Li-sta it is.
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Post by ToddHW » August 11th, 2020, 8:08 am

Kitty wrote:
August 11th, 2020, 6:58 am
Todd, here's the first act for my lady Vivash, oh I loved the drama and tragedy in this woman's life. :9:

https://librivox.org/uploads/toddhw/weakersex_lady_vivash_1_128kb.mp3
Recording time: 12:24 min.

I hope you like my interpretation of her.

Now reading the whole play, I notice that Pinero is plagiarising and recycling his own ideas :lol: The topic of the lover from the past come back to fall in love with the daughter of his previous love has been used in the Second Mrs Tanqueray as well (only it was the stepdaughter, and Mrs T. reacted very differently to Lady V. in the end), and also in a way in The Big Drum (only there was no daughter to make it even more complicated). Interestingly, Pinero opted for a "non-happy-ending" in the three plays. Maybe the audience back then wasn't ready for the daughter to find her love. I think in modern movies it would have ended differently.

Sonia
Well, after the puppy-kicking discussion I was expecting a Cruela Deville characterization (I was assuming you would pronounce your name Vye-VASH) but I see you are very far from that characature - and a great performance of a great character. I think you caught just what Pinero had in mind for this, with emotion overtaking years of strong facade. PL OK!

Not that you didn't have your own puppy-kicking moment here: really now, making Dudley read the letter from Philip?!? You cruel and/or thoughtless woman.

I look forward to hearing the rest of this.

Thanks, Todd

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Post by MichaelMaggs » August 11th, 2020, 8:09 am

It seems from this page https://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Vivash that Vivash is a Wiltshire name, pronounced Vye-vash. Also Gillingham with a hard G.

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Post by Kitty » August 11th, 2020, 8:14 am

MichaelMaggs wrote:
August 11th, 2020, 8:09 am
It seems from this page https://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Vivash that Vivash is a Wiltshire name, pronounced Vye-vash. Also Gillingham with a hard G.
oops, now I already said Vee-vash, but I can still change it if it's important. I don't think I say it anywhere else than in the voice credit :lol:

thanks !

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Post by Kitty » August 11th, 2020, 8:22 am

ToddHW wrote:
August 11th, 2020, 8:08 am
Well, after the puppy-kicking discussion I was expecting a Cruela Deville characterization (I was assuming you would pronounce your name Vye-VASH) but I see you are very far from that characature - and a great performance of a great character. I think you caught just what Pinero had in mind for this, with emotion overtaking years of strong facade. PL OK!
oh that was fast, thank you. And no, Lady Vivash is not a hard-hearted person. She is also sorry that she cannot give any love to Dudley, who definitely deserves it. She rather preferred a loveless marriage to a brute to punish herself (some women go for that). Another topic Pinero recycled from The big drum actually.

Oh and I'll say Vye-vash in the second act voice credits, then you can use that one. I didn't say it inside the play, did I ?

I'll get into puppy-kicking mood again in another play, when you are my dialogue partner again ;) old habits die hard
Not that you didn't have your own puppy-kicking moment here: really now, making Dudley read the letter from Philip?!? You cruel and/or thoughtless woman.
ah no ! to my defense, Dudley received the letter in the first place, and he showed it to me. ;) it's not clear if you only hear my lines first :lol: but in context you'll see I am completely innocent there:
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Post by alanmapstone » August 11th, 2020, 8:40 am

MichaelMaggs wrote:
August 11th, 2020, 8:09 am
It seems from this page https://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Vivash that Vivash is a Wiltshire name, pronounced Vye-vash. Also Gillingham with a hard G.
On the other hand Gillingham in Kent has a soft G. But I only say it in the voice credit anyway, so I could do it twice and make Todd's life more difficult 😺
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Post by Kitty » August 11th, 2020, 8:58 am

Lady Vye-vash, now with correct voice-credit. Act 2, where the past comes back to haunt her - raising hopes, then crushing them again

https://librivox.org/uploads/toddhw/weakersex_lady_vivash_2_128kb.mp3
Recording time: 7:02 min.

I think Act 3 will have to wait for tomorrow...I'm hungry now.

Sonia

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Post by MichaelMaggs » August 11th, 2020, 9:23 am

alanmapstone wrote:
August 11th, 2020, 8:40 am
On the other hand Gillingham in Kent has a soft G. But I only say it in the voice credit anyway, so I could do it twice and make Todd's life more difficult 😺
Seems that as a surname it's usually said with a hard G: https://one-name.org/name_profile/gillingham/

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Post by thestorygirl » August 11th, 2020, 11:59 am

I think Lady Vivash will eventually come around to loving Dudley. :wink:

Could I play Lady Gillingham?

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Post by EltonTheSnowman » August 11th, 2020, 10:27 pm

May I play Mrs Boyle-Chewton of Regent’s Park? :)
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Post by adrianstephens » August 12th, 2020, 1:47 am

Here's Dudley Act 1: https://librivox.org/uploads/toddhw/weakersex_dudleysilchester_1_128kb.mp3 @ 13:02.
I'm afraid one may have made a bit of a fool of oneself with the weaker sex. Still I'm off to Palermo where I can't interfere with the plans of my good friend Philip Lyster.
... steps out of character ...
And I've just realized I'm not following the consensus on Vi-vash. Ooops. Please mark those locations if it's important we keep consistency.
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Post by Kitty » August 12th, 2020, 4:58 am

And here is the last tearful attempt to right all the wrongs:

https://librivox.org/uploads/toddhw/weakersex_lady_vivash_3_128kb.mp3
Recording time: 7:26 min.

The last words on Lady V.'s lips are "Dudley"...maybe there is hope yet for the puppy.

Sonia

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